Tattage

Sep. 29th, 2011 09:26 pm
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Showed my 14 year-old daughter this page of Harry Potter-themed tattoos. Now she wants one.



This is the one she liked best - at least, she liked the sentiment, if not the sheer acreage the girl in the picture devoted to it.

"It's too big," she said. "I might want to get a job some day."

"It's along her side," I countered, playing devil's advocate for some unknown reason. "What job would you take where a side tattoo would be a problem?"

"Stripper," she answered promptly. I walked right into that one.

Luckily there's that "not until you're a legal adult" rule. We made that rule years ago regarding tattoos, piercings, marriage and the military, and it has saved us many an argument. I have no doubt she'll get one someday, but I hope she chooses a more timeless piece of work than this.

Date: 2011-09-30 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justpinkpastel.livejournal.com
Well, if she becomes a stripper, then there is a possibility she might have a song written about her. Or she could pretend one of the songs was about her..

That is quite a large tattoo, having never gotten one, I could only imagine how long that would take to complete. And the larger the tattoo, the higher the risk of the tattooist screwing it up somehow.

Perhaps you should have her browse through this website before she makes her decision... Although some my not be safe for er eyes, depending on how strict you are with what she sees. No nudity, just crude drawings. http://ugliesttattoos.failblog.org/

Date: 2011-09-30 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] majorjune.livejournal.com
That is quite a large tattoo, having never gotten one, I could only imagine how long that would take to complete.

It's just blackwork and lettering, so it probably only took about an hour.

And the larger the tattoo, the higher the risk of the tattooist screwing it up somehow.

Something like that is usually done via a template and not freehand, so the risk of the tattoo artist screwing up is minimized. And when it entails a fair acreage of flesh, it's usually done in more than one sitting, to lessen the risk of "post op" infection.

Everyone should wait until their 30th birthday to get a tattoo, like I did... ;-)

Date: 2011-09-30 05:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] arcanetrivia
Something like that is usually done via a template and not freehand

Even the tiny tattoo of four handwritten letters I have on the back of my neck wasn't done freehand. He used some kind of transfer film to copy it onto my skin and then drew over it with the tattoo pen. Same with the constellation tattoo on my lower belly, which is really nothing more than a simple connect-the-dots.

Date: 2011-09-30 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bonsaibetz.livejournal.com
I followed the link. Some of those are awesome tattoos. But just remind your daughter of what tattoos look like on old sailers, after the color has faded, and the skin sags. And when the skin sags. And the health risk of getting a tattoo. Every time I donate blood, they ask if I've had a tattoo in the past 12 months as hepatitis and other diseases can be transmitted through needles unless the tattoo artist has been very diligent to keep it sanitary.

And then if she wants it removed, remind her how painful laser tattoo removal is as well.

Date: 2011-09-30 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stgulik.livejournal.com
When it came to the stomach tattoos, my kid said, "Sure it looks okay now, but wait 'til she gets pregnant!"

Date: 2011-09-30 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] majorjune.livejournal.com
But just remind your daughter of what tattoos look like on old sailers, after the color has faded, and the skin sags.

I've had a tatto for 28 years. Yes, there's some fading, but modern dyes fade less than the old dyes. Also if the tattoo is done on a part of the body that isn't constantly exposed to the sun, fading is minimal.

My tattoo is on my upper arm, so it's only gotten exposed to the sun during the summer when I went sleeveless, the rest of the time it's been covered by even short sleeves.

When I first got the tattoo I was warned by those who either had tattoos of long standing, or those who knew people who had tattoos for a long time, that the red coloring would fade fast. But apparantly the dye formulation had recently been changed just before I got my tattoo, because 28 years later the red is still a strong, deep red with minimal fading. The most fading has been with the yellow, but it's still obviously yellow, just not as bright as when it was new.

Basically most of the colors are still strong, but what IS different is that the image isn't as "crisp" as when it was new...it sort of looks like something that was printed on an inkjet printer and then spritzed with water so that the edges bled a little.

And maybe it's my DNA, but my 58 y.o. upper arm is still smooth and firm!

hepatitis and other diseases can be transmitted through needles unless the tattoo artist has been very diligent to keep it sanitary.

Most legitimate parlors autoclave their equipment. Even back in 1983 they were doing this, plus used new needles for each customer (I watched as the tattoo artist broke the needles out of a sealed package)...but I made sure I went to a parlor that had been around a long time and had an excellent reputation.

And then if she wants it removed, remind her how painful laser tattoo removal is as well.

Which is why *I* say no one should get a tattoo before the age of 30! LOL

And under no circumstance have someone's name tattooed on your body! And choose a location like I did that you can hide under clothing so that you can still work at a bank or investment firm or lawyer's office! :-)

Date: 2011-09-30 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bonsaibetz.livejournal.com
All good an valid points, but called me old fashioned, I just don't think tattoos are something for most of the population. I find this tramp stamp fad and desire to get ink a fad on par with the multiple ear piecing fad of the 80's, when I would see girls with up to ten piecing on each ear. I got my ears pieced when I was 10 and it hurt like all bloody fuck. I had it done at a good earring place with one of those piecing guns and the pain was incredible. So much I almost didn't get my other ear pierced. My mother had to convince me that I'd look like a pirate if I didn't get the other one done to match since I already got the first one done. That was enough pain from self-mutilation for me for the rest of my life.

Getting waxed a few times was the end of the "pain for beauty" pursuit for me.

Date: 2011-09-30 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aurette.livejournal.com
Show her this: http://kellydotytattoo.com/Tattoos/tattoos_50857.html

Date: 2011-09-30 12:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stgulik.livejournal.com
Oh, aurette. That tattoo is Not Safe For Life.

Date: 2011-09-30 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aurette.livejournal.com
*giggle*

Date: 2011-09-30 09:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melusin-79.livejournal.com
when celebrities with tattoos get old and their skin starts to sag, there'll be a trend for tattoo removal -- hopefully by the time your daughter reaches the age of majority

Date: 2011-09-30 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stgulik.livejournal.com
No doubt tattoo removal will be big business by then. Sounds like a lot of pain going on and coming off!

Date: 2011-09-30 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] majorjune.livejournal.com
I have had more pain at the dentist getting my teeth cleaned than I experienced getting my tattoo...

What DID bother me, to the point that after 20 minutes I started getting nauseous, was the combination of the annoying high whine of the needles (since I was getting it on my upper arm, the device was right next to my ear) coupled with the smell of the inks. Plus even though the shop was air-conditioned it was very hot and humid outside, and maybe the a/c wasn't working as well as it should because it felt somewhat humid inside the shop even though the inside temp was comfortable.

Date: 2011-09-30 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mimimanderly.livejournal.com
I don't understand how someone can get something PERMANENTLY engraved onto their skin when they are young, thinking that they will always like it or be that person. I have changed my "look" SO many times in the intervening decades since youth. I have friends I only see once in a blue moon whose first question to me is "so, what color is your hair now?". If I can't settle on a hair color indefinitely, or a lipstick shade, why would I commit to something as permanent as a tattoo? Granted, I know people who are exactly the same as they were in high school and have exactly the same "look". I look upon these people with pity. They are missing out on the fun of re-inventing oneself.

Also, as others have pointed out, eventually the skin will sag, and the tattoo will just look sad.

Date: 2011-09-30 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] majorjune.livejournal.com
I don't understand how someone can get something PERMANENTLY engraved onto their skin when they are young, thinking that they will always like it or be that person.

Which is why I stated above, people should wait until they are at least 30 y.o. before contemplating getting a tattoo, and never, EVER have someone's name put on! :-P

If I can't settle on a hair color indefinitely, or a lipstick shade, why would I commit to something as permanent as a tattoo?

Which is why I thought long and hard about it before taking the plunge. I bought tattoo mags for months, looking at the different types of work and designs, educating myself on the pros and cons.

When I finally went to the tattoo shop I spent a VERY long time inspecting all of the designs they had available before choosing one I knew I could live with for a lifetime.

Okay, I know someone's going to ask, so what I got was a rose with a lightening bolt thru it, surrounded by a crescent moon and stars. My birthsign is Cancer -- Moonchild -- and my birth flower is Rose, so that's why I went with the design. It's about 2.5-3 inches long, approx. 2 inches wide.

Other than the "fuzziness" that the outline's developed that I described above, the colors are still dark and vibrant, and I've never regretted getting it. :-)

Date: 2011-09-30 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stgulik.livejournal.com
Majorjune, thanks for your story and all your sound advice. If everybody was as deliberate in choosing to tattoo as you were, we wouldn't have seen half the horrid examples in that HP tattoo post. :D

There has been a lot of good advice on this thread that I will be sharing with my kid.

Date: 2011-09-30 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] voxangelus.livejournal.com
I've been deliberating over getting a tattoo for three years now. I know what I want and where I want it. I've drawn it on with Sharpie several times. I have another 25 pounds of weight loss to go before I can get it. I promised myself that 50 pounds = tattoo. :D

Date: 2011-09-30 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stgulik.livejournal.com
That's a great reward to look forward to!

Date: 2011-10-03 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] macaparket.livejournal.com
I want either a dark mark or a DH tattoo. But if I mentioned anything to my mum she's throw me out xD

Date: 2011-10-03 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stgulik.livejournal.com
So, I just found this bracelet on Etsy. I think I'll give one to my girl to stave off the need for a tattoo, at least for a little while! http://www.etsy.com/listing/75664291/harry-potter-to-dwell-on-dreams-bracelet

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